Mülheim: OB-Kandidat Jochen Hartmann im großen Interview
Mirco Stodollick

„Wer nicht wagt, der nicht gewinnt“, sagt Jochen Hartmann zu seinem neuen politischen Anlauf, diesmal als parteiloser OB-Kandidat.
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Mülheim. OB-Kandidat Jochen Hartmann (parteilos) hat in Mülheim schon öfter die Fronten gewechselt. Für ihn sei Politik Kampfsport, sagt er im Interview.
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