Interview

Michael Gerdes will wieder öfter mit den Menschen reden

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Bundestagsabgeordneter Michael Gerdes (SPD) war zu Gast in der WAZ-Redaktion und sprach mit ihr unter anderem über die Situation seiner Partei und Herausforderungen für seinen Wahlkreis.

Bundestagsabgeordneter Michael Gerdes (SPD) war zu Gast in der WAZ-Redaktion und sprach mit ihr unter anderem über die Situation seiner Partei und Herausforderungen für seinen Wahlkreis.

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Gladbeck/ Bottrop.  SPD-Bundestagsabgeordneter Michael Gerdes will auf den Sinkflug seiner Partei reagieren. Ein Gespräch über Herausforderungen und die AfD.

Nicht erst seit den schlechten Ergebnissen bei der Europawahl ist klar: In der SPD kriselt es. Mit SPD-Bundestagsabgeordneten Michael Gerdes sprach die WAZ über seine eigene Partei, Bedrohungen, die AfD und die drängendsten Fragen in seinem Wahlkreis.

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