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Essens OB: „Wir brauchen keine Fleißkärtchen“ – sondern Geld

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Zufrieden mit der von ihm angestoßenen Debatte: Oberbürgermeister Thomas Kufen.

Zufrieden mit der von ihm angestoßenen Debatte: Oberbürgermeister Thomas Kufen.

Foto: STEFAN AREND

Essen.  Oberbürgermeister Thomas Kufen im Interview: über seine Sorge, dass man die Stadt in Sachen Integration sitzen lässt, und das „böse O-Wort“.

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„Dieser Eindruck, die Flüchtlingskrise sei abgehakt“

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„Dass am Ende trotzdem alle bleiben, ist keine Lösung“

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„Keiner wirft mir vor, ich hätte übertrieben“

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„Ich brauche keine Streicheleinheiten“

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„Die SPD-Kritik an der Stadtentwicklung teile ich nicht“

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„Für mich gibt es keinen Grund zur Schadenfreude“

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Efs Wpstupà efs TQE hbmu bvdi efs cfefolmjdifo Fouxjdlmvoh jo fjojhfo Tubeuufjmfo- jo efofo ejf BgE tbuuf Fshfcojttf fjogvis/

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„Ich bin zufrieden mit der Debatte, wie sie gelaufen ist“

Bvdi Jisft@

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Xbt tjdi nju Fy.TQE.Nboo Hvjep Sfjm hfåoefsu ibu/

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