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Einer der vermögendsten Schwelmer spricht über sein Leben

Der Schwelmer Dr. Rolf Lohbeck wird 80 Jahre alt. Seine Ehefrau Heidrun lernte vor mittlerweile 60 Jahren kennen und lieben. Gemeinsam haben sie immer wieder auf Risiko gesetzt und am Ende enormen wirtschaftliche Erfolg erzielt.

Der Schwelmer Dr. Rolf Lohbeck wird 80 Jahre alt. Seine Ehefrau Heidrun lernte vor mittlerweile 60 Jahren kennen und lieben. Gemeinsam haben sie immer wieder auf Risiko gesetzt und am Ende enormen wirtschaftliche Erfolg erzielt.

Foto: Stefan Scherer / Stefan Scherer / WP

Schwelm.  Dr. Rolf Lohbeck ist einer der vermögendsten Schwelmer und spricht zu seinem 80. Geburtstag über sein Leben und was für ihn Luxus bedeutet.

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