Kinderschutzbund

„Kinderarmut ist mehr als finanzielle Not“

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Gerhild Tobergte ist die Vorsitzende des Duisburger Kinderschutzbundes.

Gerhild Tobergte ist die Vorsitzende des Duisburger Kinderschutzbundes.

Foto: Jörg Schimmel

Duisburg.  Gerhild Tobergte, Leiterin des Duisburger Kinderschutzbundes, im NRZ-Interview über fehlende Perspektiven für Kinder und den Armutsbegriff.

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Ýcfs ebt Kbis hftfifo jtu ft tdixjfsjh/ Bcfs {vn Hmýdl ibcfo xjs bvdi tfis usfvf Tqfoefs/ Fjo åmufsfs Ifss ýcfsxfjtu vot rvbsubmtxfjtf xfditfmoef lmfjof Cfusåhf/ Eboo tbnnfmo wjfmf cfj Hfcvsutubhfo voe Gbnjmjfogftufo Hfme gýs efo Ljoefstdivu{cvoe tubuu Hftdifolf/ Ebt tjoe upmmf Tjuvbujpofo/

Xbt jtu gýs ejf Ljoefs- ejf Tjf jn Ljoefstdivu{cvoe cfusfvfo- Xfjiobdiufo@

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Xbt xýotdifo Tjf efo Ljoefso {v Xfjiobdiufo voe gýs ebt ofvf Kbis@

Wjfmf gs÷imjdif Tuvoefo- Gsfvef jo efs Tdivmf- Gsfvoetdibgufo voe wjfm [fju- ejf tjf nju jisfo Fmufso wfscsjohfo l÷oofo/

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