Interview

Duisburger Superintendent plädiert für mehr Menschlichkeit

Im Paternoster darf auch gelacht werden: Superintendent Armin Schneider (li.) im Gespräch mit WAZ-Redakteur Oliver Schmee.

Im Paternoster darf auch gelacht werden: Superintendent Armin Schneider (li.) im Gespräch mit WAZ-Redakteur Oliver Schmee.

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Duisburg.  Superintendent Armin Schneider erklärt im Paternoster-Gespräch, was Weihnachten für ihn bedeutet - und dass die Bibel voll ist mit Flüchtlings-Botschaften.

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