WAZ-Interview

Würden Sie von Hartz IV leben, Bischof Overbeck?

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Ort der Stille mitten in Essens City: Franz-Josef Overbeck im Innengarten des Essener Bistums. Fotos:André Hirtz

Ort der Stille mitten in Essens City: Franz-Josef Overbeck im Innengarten des Essener Bistums. Fotos:André Hirtz

Essen.   Ruhrbischof Franz-Josef Overbeck spricht im WAZ-Interview über Armut im Revier, Neiddebatten und die ungereche Verteilung zwischen den Bistümern

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Eine berührende Nacht in Guatemala

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Zugang zu Medien als Grund für Armutsmigration

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Der innerkirchliche Finanzausgleich ist ungerecht

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„Ich bin und bleibe auch Bischof der Bergleute“

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