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CDU-Politiker bei „Hart aber fair“: Soli muss endlich weg

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Bei „Hart aber fair“ mit Frank Plasberg wurde über die Staatsfinanzen diskutiert.

Bei „Hart aber fair“ mit Frank Plasberg wurde über die Staatsfinanzen diskutiert.

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Berlin  Bei Frank Plasberg ging’s ums Geld. Beim Thema Steuern zeigen die Volksparteien, dass sie sich doch noch unterscheiden – gut so!

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